Family Card - Person Sheet
Family Card - Person Sheet
NameRoland Herbert DRAPER
Birthabt 1877, Kensington, London, England
Death14 Nov 1931, Southampton, Hampshire, England
OccupationSolicitor, Paymaster Royal Navy
Spouses
1Dorothy Forster BELL, 3C2R
Birth1888, Wavertree, Lancashire
Baptism29 Jul 1888
Death3 Jul 1932, Rock Ferry, Cheshire
Burial5 Jul 1932, Norley, Chestershire
FatherCharles F. BELL (1854-<1921)
MotherFanny Mosse TUNNICLIFF (~1847-1934)
Marriage24 May 1909
ChildrenDorothy Ida Pamela (1910-2003)
Zara (1912-2010)
Notes for Roland Herbert DRAPER
California Arriving Passenger Lists
Departed Papeete, Tahiti on the RMS Tahiti arrived San Francisco, California October 25 1921
Roland H. Draper, age 45, married, lawyer,English, last permanent address Birmingham, England, friend from country whence came from Robert Walker ship builder Papeete, Tahiti, final destination Birmingham
Gladys Draper, age 33, wife [not married], English
National Probate Calendar
Roland Herbert Draper of Marston Pembridge Leominster Herefordshire died 14 November 1931 at the South Western Hotel Southampton Probate London 1 April 1933 to Arthur George Huxley solicitor. Effects 295 pounds. Revoked 4 April 1933. New Grant 29 April 1933
Then
Roland Herbert Draper of 14 Westgate-terrace Earls Court Middlesex died 14 November 1931 at the South Western Hotel Southampton Probate London 29 April 1933 to Arthur George Huxley solicitor. Effects 295 pounds. Former Grant P. R. 1 April 1933 revoked
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Roland Herbert Draper
Birth 18 Jul 1876, Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, Greater London, England
Death 14 Nov 1931 (aged 55), Southampton, Southampton Unitary Authority, Hampshire, England
Burial Hollybrook Cemetery, Southampton, Southampton Unitary Authority, Hampshire, England
Memorial ID 274957234
Son of Edward Herbert Draper and Eliza Hennell who were married on the 16th January 1872 at the French Protestant Chapel, St. Martin-le-Grand, London.
The 1881 Census states that Roland, 4, lived at 14, Pembroke Gardens, Kensington, London, with his father, Edward, 40, a barrister and J.P., mother, Eliza, 32, brother, Warwick, 8, and sister, Eliza, 1.
In 1901, aged 24, Roland was a law student/articled clerk, living with his parents and sister, Eliza.
Roland, a solicitor, married Dorothy Forster Bell on the 24th May 1909 at Chester Cathedral, Chester, Cheshire, their parents were witnesses.
Known Children
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Dorothy Ida Pamela Draper (Evans) 1910 - 2003
The 1911 Census states that Roland, 34, living on private means, Dorothy, 22, and six months old baby Dorothy, were living at The Rookery, Norley, Cheshire. During the war Roland served in the Royal Navy as a paymaster.
On the 14th November a man and a woman were found shot in hotel room at the South Western Hotel, in Southampton. The man was dead but the woman was alive though in a critical condition. It was thought that the couple were Mr. and Mrs. Roland Draper, even though they used fake names when signing the register book. The man did indeed turn out to be Roland Draper but the woman was not Mrs. Draper, who at that time was lying ill, and had been for the past six-months, in a nursing home in another part of the country.
RIDDLE OF SHOT PAIR ENDED - Daily Herald - 23rd November 1931
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A story of a man who was cited as a co-respondent but never divorced by his wife lies behind the finding of him shot dead at a Southampton hotel along with a wounded woman. Although the couple were "identified" last Wednesday as Mr. and Mrs. Roland H. Draper, the full facts are as told below.
The man, Mr. Roland Herbert Draper, was married at Chester Cathedral on May, 24th 1909, at the age of 32, to Miss Dorothy Forster Bell, the 21 year old daughter of Mr. Charles Bell. Mr. Draper was described as a bachelor, of Abbey Street, Chester, and a solicitor by profession. His father was Mr. Edward Herbert Draper, a barrister. There is no record of the marriage having been dissolved and Mrs. Draper is still living.
The injured woman, Gladys Tresidder (nee Lacey), was formerly the wife of Major George William Tresidder. This marriage was dissolved on the husband's petition in December 1920. "Peter" Draper, a paymaster in the Navy, being co-respondent. There were three sons from the marriage.
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Roland was apparently legally separated from Dorothy after he and Gladys became an item. It was said that they adored and doted on each other, they were together for about sixteen years. One newspaper articled stated that Roland had been having trouble with his eyesight and he was eventually told that he was going blind and there was nothing the doctors could do to prevent it. The article suggested that this was the reason Roland took his own life, and Gladys not wanting to live without him decided to go with him.
To this day nobody knows the truth of what happened exactly or why. We will never know whether Roland shot Gladys and then himself, or if they shot each other, or if they shot themselves. Gladys never gave an explanation of what happened, she apparently refused to talk about it, ever.
Although Gladys survived the shooting, the bullet damaged her spine. She spent the next two years in hospital, in March 1932, she was removed from the Royal Hospital at Southampton to Basford Infirmary in Nottinghamshire where she died on the 16th December 1933, at the age of 45, her death was due to paralysis resulting from an injury to her spine.
Roland died aged 55.
He was laid to rest before the 24th November, only two people were there to mourn his loss neither of whom gave their identity.
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Departed Papeete, Tahiti on the RMS Tahiti arrived San Francisco, California October 25 1921
Roland H. Draper, age 45, married, lawyer,English, last permanent address Birmingham, England, friend from country whence came from Robert Walker ship builder Papeete, Tahiti, final destination Birmingham
Gladys Draper, age 33, wife [not married], English
National Probate Calendar
Roland Herbert Draper of Marston Pembridge Leominster Herefordshire died 14 November 1931 at the South Western Hotel Southampton Probate London 1 April 1933 to Arthur George Huxley solicitor. Effects 295 pounds. Revoked 4 April 1933. New Grant 29 April 1933
Then
Roland Herbert Draper of 14 Westgate-terrace Earls Court Middlesex died 14 November 1931 at the South Western Hotel Southampton Probate London 29 April 1933 to Arthur George Huxley solicitor. Effects 295 pounds. Former Grant P. R. 1 April 1933 revoked
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Roland Herbert Draper
Birth 18 Jul 1876, Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, Greater London, England
Death 14 Nov 1931 (aged 55), Southampton, Southampton Unitary Authority, Hampshire, England
Burial Hollybrook Cemetery, Southampton, Southampton Unitary Authority, Hampshire, England
Memorial ID 274957234
Son of Edward Herbert Draper and Eliza Hennell who were married on the 16th January 1872 at the French Protestant Chapel, St. Martin-le-Grand, London.
The 1881 Census states that Roland, 4, lived at 14, Pembroke Gardens, Kensington, London, with his father, Edward, 40, a barrister and J.P., mother, Eliza, 32, brother, Warwick, 8, and sister, Eliza, 1.
In 1901, aged 24, Roland was a law student/articled clerk, living with his parents and sister, Eliza.
Roland, a solicitor, married Dorothy Forster Bell on the 24th May 1909 at Chester Cathedral, Chester, Cheshire, their parents were witnesses.
Known Children
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Dorothy Ida Pamela Draper (Evans) 1910 - 2003
The 1911 Census states that Roland, 34, living on private means, Dorothy, 22, and six months old baby Dorothy, were living at The Rookery, Norley, Cheshire. During the war Roland served in the Royal Navy as a paymaster.
On the 14th November a man and a woman were found shot in hotel room at the South Western Hotel, in Southampton. The man was dead but the woman was alive though in a critical condition. It was thought that the couple were Mr. and Mrs. Roland Draper, even though they used fake names when signing the register book. The man did indeed turn out to be Roland Draper but the woman was not Mrs. Draper, who at that time was lying ill, and had been for the past six-months, in a nursing home in another part of the country.
RIDDLE OF SHOT PAIR ENDED - Daily Herald - 23rd November 1931
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A story of a man who was cited as a co-respondent but never divorced by his wife lies behind the finding of him shot dead at a Southampton hotel along with a wounded woman. Although the couple were "identified" last Wednesday as Mr. and Mrs. Roland H. Draper, the full facts are as told below.
The man, Mr. Roland Herbert Draper, was married at Chester Cathedral on May, 24th 1909, at the age of 32, to Miss Dorothy Forster Bell, the 21 year old daughter of Mr. Charles Bell. Mr. Draper was described as a bachelor, of Abbey Street, Chester, and a solicitor by profession. His father was Mr. Edward Herbert Draper, a barrister. There is no record of the marriage having been dissolved and Mrs. Draper is still living.
The injured woman, Gladys Tresidder (nee Lacey), was formerly the wife of Major George William Tresidder. This marriage was dissolved on the husband's petition in December 1920. "Peter" Draper, a paymaster in the Navy, being co-respondent. There were three sons from the marriage.
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Roland was apparently legally separated from Dorothy after he and Gladys became an item. It was said that they adored and doted on each other, they were together for about sixteen years. One newspaper articled stated that Roland had been having trouble with his eyesight and he was eventually told that he was going blind and there was nothing the doctors could do to prevent it. The article suggested that this was the reason Roland took his own life, and Gladys not wanting to live without him decided to go with him.
To this day nobody knows the truth of what happened exactly or why. We will never know whether Roland shot Gladys and then himself, or if they shot each other, or if they shot themselves. Gladys never gave an explanation of what happened, she apparently refused to talk about it, ever.
Although Gladys survived the shooting, the bullet damaged her spine. She spent the next two years in hospital, in March 1932, she was removed from the Royal Hospital at Southampton to Basford Infirmary in Nottinghamshire where she died on the 16th December 1933, at the age of 45, her death was due to paralysis resulting from an injury to her spine.
Roland died aged 55.
He was laid to rest before the 24th November, only two people were there to mourn his loss neither of whom gave their identity.
End of findagrave entry
Notes for Dorothy Forster (Spouse 1)
Parish Records St. Bridget, Wavertree, Liverpool
Baptism July 29 1888 Dorothy Forster Bell parents Charles Bell and Frances Mosse Bell, residence Rose House, Wavertree, father is a brewer, ceremony by T B Parker
In the 1891 census 242 Picton Road, Wavertree, Lancashire.
Head Charles Bell, age 36, Brewer, Maltster Wine and Spirit Merchant, employer, born Bickerstaff, Lancashire.
Wife Frances M. Bell, age 43, born Eccleshall, Staffordshire.
Daughter Eveline Bell, age 11, scholar, born Wavertree, Lancashire.
Son Charles F. Bell, age 8, scholar, born Wavertree.
Daughter Dorothy F. Bell, age 2, born Wavertree.
Son Harold F. Bell, age 6 months, born Wavertree.
A cook, housemaid and nurse.
[The next address is referred to as the Brewery Yard.]
In the 1901 census Norley Hall, Norley, Cheshire.
Head Charles Bell, age 46, brewer and maltster, employer, born Bickerstaffe, Lancashire.
Wife Frances M. Bell, age 46 [actually 54], born Eccleshall, Staffordshire.
Daughter Eveline Bell, single, age 21, born Wavertree, Lancashire.
Daughter Dorothy F. Bell, age 12, born Wavertree.
Son Harold F. Bell, age 10, born Wavertree.
A governess, a cook, a laundress, a waitress, a housemaid, a kitchenmaid and a page.
Parish Records Chester Cathedral, Chester, Cheshire
Marriage May 24 1909
Roland Herbert Draper, age 32, bachelor, solicitor, residence 6 Ably Street Chester, father Edward Herbert Draper, barrister and
Dorothy Forster Bell, age 21, spinster, residence Norley Hall Chester, father Charles Bell, gentleman
After Banns by Auben Baxter, Minor Canon
In the presence of Elsie Draper, Edward Herbert Draper, Frances Mosse Bell and Charles Bell
In the 1911 census The Rookery, Norley, Cheshire
Head Roland Herbert Draper, age 34, private means, born Kensington, Middlesex
Wife Dorothy Forster Draper, age 22, married 2 years, 1 child born alive - still living, born Wavertree, Lancashire
Daughter Dorothy Ida Pamela Draper, age 6 months, born Norley, Chester
1 servant
In the 1921 census 140 Broughton, Chester, Cheshire
Head Frances M. Bell, age 74 years 6 months, widow, born Eccleshall, Staffordshire, household duties
Daughter Dorothy F. Draper, age 33 years 1 months, married but separated, born Wavertree, Lancashire
Grandchild Pamela Draper, age 10 years 9 months, parents both alive, born Norley, Cheshire, whole time at school
Grandchild Zara Draper, age 9 years 5 months, parents both alive, born Chester, Cheshire, whole time at school
Parish Records St John the Evangelist, Norley, Cheshire
Dorothy Forster Draper abode 9 Egerton Park Tranmere, buried July 5 1932 age 44 years ceremony by H J E Williams
National Probate Calendar
Dorothy Forster Draper of 9 Egerton Park Rock Ferry near Birkenhead widow died 3 July 1932 Probate Chester 4 November 1932 to Charles Carter Bate solicitor and Gordon Scott Adcock commercial traveller. Effects 5848 pounds
Baptism July 29 1888 Dorothy Forster Bell parents Charles Bell and Frances Mosse Bell, residence Rose House, Wavertree, father is a brewer, ceremony by T B Parker
In the 1891 census 242 Picton Road, Wavertree, Lancashire.
Head Charles Bell, age 36, Brewer, Maltster Wine and Spirit Merchant, employer, born Bickerstaff, Lancashire.
Wife Frances M. Bell, age 43, born Eccleshall, Staffordshire.
Daughter Eveline Bell, age 11, scholar, born Wavertree, Lancashire.
Son Charles F. Bell, age 8, scholar, born Wavertree.
Daughter Dorothy F. Bell, age 2, born Wavertree.
Son Harold F. Bell, age 6 months, born Wavertree.
A cook, housemaid and nurse.
[The next address is referred to as the Brewery Yard.]
In the 1901 census Norley Hall, Norley, Cheshire.
Head Charles Bell, age 46, brewer and maltster, employer, born Bickerstaffe, Lancashire.
Wife Frances M. Bell, age 46 [actually 54], born Eccleshall, Staffordshire.
Daughter Eveline Bell, single, age 21, born Wavertree, Lancashire.
Daughter Dorothy F. Bell, age 12, born Wavertree.
Son Harold F. Bell, age 10, born Wavertree.
A governess, a cook, a laundress, a waitress, a housemaid, a kitchenmaid and a page.
Parish Records Chester Cathedral, Chester, Cheshire
Marriage May 24 1909
Roland Herbert Draper, age 32, bachelor, solicitor, residence 6 Ably Street Chester, father Edward Herbert Draper, barrister and
Dorothy Forster Bell, age 21, spinster, residence Norley Hall Chester, father Charles Bell, gentleman
After Banns by Auben Baxter, Minor Canon
In the presence of Elsie Draper, Edward Herbert Draper, Frances Mosse Bell and Charles Bell
In the 1911 census The Rookery, Norley, Cheshire
Head Roland Herbert Draper, age 34, private means, born Kensington, Middlesex
Wife Dorothy Forster Draper, age 22, married 2 years, 1 child born alive - still living, born Wavertree, Lancashire
Daughter Dorothy Ida Pamela Draper, age 6 months, born Norley, Chester
1 servant
In the 1921 census 140 Broughton, Chester, Cheshire
Head Frances M. Bell, age 74 years 6 months, widow, born Eccleshall, Staffordshire, household duties
Daughter Dorothy F. Draper, age 33 years 1 months, married but separated, born Wavertree, Lancashire
Grandchild Pamela Draper, age 10 years 9 months, parents both alive, born Norley, Cheshire, whole time at school
Grandchild Zara Draper, age 9 years 5 months, parents both alive, born Chester, Cheshire, whole time at school
Parish Records St John the Evangelist, Norley, Cheshire
Dorothy Forster Draper abode 9 Egerton Park Tranmere, buried July 5 1932 age 44 years ceremony by H J E Williams
National Probate Calendar
Dorothy Forster Draper of 9 Egerton Park Rock Ferry near Birkenhead widow died 3 July 1932 Probate Chester 4 November 1932 to Charles Carter Bate solicitor and Gordon Scott Adcock commercial traveller. Effects 5848 pounds